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T Coddington's avatar

This was excellent. You have very clearly shown the base rate fallacy as well as Simpson's paradox. I would suggest, when looking at observational data, the 3rd item to be added to the Mt. Rushmore of biases to examine is the healthy user bias. I believe you comment on my stack so you are not surprised to know that I think this is a critical component to consider in any look at observational data.

This is why we need RCTs. Until yesterday, I was unaware of any RCTs showing a mortality benefit of the vaccines (I have a full-time, unrelated job... keeping up with all of the literature is not possible for me). Someone on Twitter pointed me to a Cochrane paper which, in turn, seemed to rely on a single RC for VE against COVID deaths for Pfizer and Moderna. Hooray! However, when I looked at the papers involved from that RCT, while it claimed VE against severe disease & death was 97%, it also claimed VE against symptomatic infections was >90%. How can I believe the former when the latter is obviously nonsense?

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Wendy Leonard's avatar

I think you bring your own confirmation bias to the numbers. You ignore the known death rate of unvaccinated in age groups, and Natural immunity gained from previous infections, so if the vax and boosters actually worked then the deaths should be falling not growing in age groups. Especially as the weakest already succumbed to the more "dangerous" variants. Also as the numbers are fudged a little to say people who die within 14 days of a shot arent vaccinated it puts it own skew on the results. Many more professionals are coming to the same conclusion that these jabs do not help, in fact cause infection rate to go higher.

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