Brief Q: what's the Irish public health officialdom's definition of a 'Covid-associated death'? As you may know, the Norwegians don't have a consistent definition (i.e., it changed over time), and by now one doesn't even have to have Covid or even tested 'positive' for it. As regards that little notion, all testing data is invalid for lack of baselines, sample groups, repeat testing by Branch Covidians vs. those who couldn't care less, etc.
Long-ish A w/respect to the 'why?' you ask about at the end: you point to all correct things, I think, but here's my hunch--getting jabbed 'pulls death forward' by an unspecified amount of time; moreover, it looks as if the artificial S proteins exacerbate all and any pre-existing health-related issues that may have gone unnoticed for a long time or forever.
My suspicion is it's not only a question about who and why doesn't anyone want to move first--I think it's a game of chicken, so to speak--but there's nothing to gain. You know, back in the 1960s, speaking out against, e.g., the war in Vietnam might have helped end the conflict; by contrast, today, no-one 'wins' anything: Big Pharma surely has no interest (to put it mildly), and neither to the other complicit parties, from politicians to consultants, from 'public health experts™' to 'journalists' in legacy media, and from doctors to the courts. They've all got a stake in never being found out, hence they will fight this tooth, nail, and then some.
Hi @fackel (comments just swallowed my first draft...)
As far as I can tell, since 3rd August 2021 Ireland has defined a confirmed Covid case as anyone with a positive PCR or rapid anti-gen test result from a public laboratory service (i.e. self-administered anti-gen doesn't count). Prior to that, I think only PCR was confirmed.
It appears to be the same definition for Covid deaths - in other words, anyone who died having recently (I don't know how recently?) tested positive for Covid is recorded as a confirmed Covid death.
By my current rough estimations, Ireland's confirmed Covid deaths for 2020-2022 (~8,000) exceed excess deaths for same period(~5,000) by ~3,000, i.e. 60% higher.
Caveat: it is not clear to me yet if deaths for which a coroner's certificate is still pending (i.e. not yet officially registered) may have provisionally been recorded in a parallel Computerised Infectious Disease Reporting (CIDR) system - if not, and late registered deaths are subsequently recorded as Covid deaths, then the discrepancy could grow even larger!
Thanks a lot for doing the digging on this one. I just wondered when I saw the (less-than-tacit) admission that the Norwegians would count you as 'Covid-assoc. death' even without a 'test'.
Upon reflection, I'm not surprised at-all, even though it calls into question certain notions related to 'excess deaths'.
Excellent piece, my friend!
Brief Q: what's the Irish public health officialdom's definition of a 'Covid-associated death'? As you may know, the Norwegians don't have a consistent definition (i.e., it changed over time), and by now one doesn't even have to have Covid or even tested 'positive' for it. As regards that little notion, all testing data is invalid for lack of baselines, sample groups, repeat testing by Branch Covidians vs. those who couldn't care less, etc.
Long-ish A w/respect to the 'why?' you ask about at the end: you point to all correct things, I think, but here's my hunch--getting jabbed 'pulls death forward' by an unspecified amount of time; moreover, it looks as if the artificial S proteins exacerbate all and any pre-existing health-related issues that may have gone unnoticed for a long time or forever.
My suspicion is it's not only a question about who and why doesn't anyone want to move first--I think it's a game of chicken, so to speak--but there's nothing to gain. You know, back in the 1960s, speaking out against, e.g., the war in Vietnam might have helped end the conflict; by contrast, today, no-one 'wins' anything: Big Pharma surely has no interest (to put it mildly), and neither to the other complicit parties, from politicians to consultants, from 'public health experts™' to 'journalists' in legacy media, and from doctors to the courts. They've all got a stake in never being found out, hence they will fight this tooth, nail, and then some.
Hi @fackel (comments just swallowed my first draft...)
As far as I can tell, since 3rd August 2021 Ireland has defined a confirmed Covid case as anyone with a positive PCR or rapid anti-gen test result from a public laboratory service (i.e. self-administered anti-gen doesn't count). Prior to that, I think only PCR was confirmed.
https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casedefinitions/covid-19interimcasedefinitionforireland/
It appears to be the same definition for Covid deaths - in other words, anyone who died having recently (I don't know how recently?) tested positive for Covid is recorded as a confirmed Covid death.
By my current rough estimations, Ireland's confirmed Covid deaths for 2020-2022 (~8,000) exceed excess deaths for same period(~5,000) by ~3,000, i.e. 60% higher.
Caveat: it is not clear to me yet if deaths for which a coroner's certificate is still pending (i.e. not yet officially registered) may have provisionally been recorded in a parallel Computerised Infectious Disease Reporting (CIDR) system - if not, and late registered deaths are subsequently recorded as Covid deaths, then the discrepancy could grow even larger!
Thanks a lot for doing the digging on this one. I just wondered when I saw the (less-than-tacit) admission that the Norwegians would count you as 'Covid-assoc. death' even without a 'test'.
Upon reflection, I'm not surprised at-all, even though it calls into question certain notions related to 'excess deaths'.
Thank you for your kind words!
Re your Q, I'll have get back to you. But off the top of my head, Ireland went with quite a broad definition (at least at the start).
Here's more information on the Norwegian lies:
https://fackel.substack.com/p/covid-in-norway
It'll be interesting to see what the Irish gov't does about these 'definitions'…
"Health Protection Surveillance Centre " -how creepy.Another arm of the Government dedicated to Military Industrial Complex against citizenry.
The copy-and-paste devil sneaked into the red box on the right of Chart 4.
Thanks, CM! (great eye for detail!)
Will correct once back at laptop..